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Wednesday 04 May 2011 5:46:02 am
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tim.schaefer
Member
Location:
Germany
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SL62 best fin and mast foot position
Hi!
Bought a used 62 of 2009 and I need help now for it. Which is the best fin? Where do you put the mast foot?
I have Talon 35-37-39. Tried the 39 and 37. 39 was a bit big and very physical to sail because of a lot of backfoot pressure, 37 was better in that case. Upwind- and crosswind speed was good when I put the board on the rails, but I missed a bit of instant acceleration in shorter gusts.
That's why I am looking for a mast foot / fin combination to get a more loose ride.
Cheers
Tim
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Thursday 05 May 2011 1:42:12 am
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.g.e.o.
CA Team
Italy
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Hi,
last few times I sailed my '09 SL62 I liked it very much with a Talon 40. But, be advised Talon fins are foiled in different thickness ratios (9.0%, 9.5% and 10.0%). My 40 was a standard 9.0%. Ialso tested a 9.5% 36 and didn't like it at all, way too stiff and powerful; so in the end I ordered 36 and 38 in 9.0% too. So far I tested the 38 on my '11 SL66 and it's just fine. All that said, I suspect that 1) your fins are in 9.5% thickness, and 2) CA boards like the thinner foils better.
Also have to say, the 62 has such a large range that probably there is just no single 'good' fin. Did I still have one, I think I would like Talon 9.0% in 36, 38 and 40 for it. That's talking about Talon fins of course; maybe the 40 would be nicer in some more powerful design (Vector Volt?) for lower end 7.6 - 8.0.
As for mast foot position, just bring it back of center.
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Thursday 05 May 2011 4:23:53 am
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akisman
CA Team
Greece
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Hi Tim and welcome to this forum
I still have my SL62 09 model ,the pro one , which is a board that I use in wind force 4-6 bfs .
I sail it with with the following combination of sails and fins :
1. For everyday use
7.5 severne NCX pro no cam , Deboichet custom SL4 ,40cm
7.0 severne NCX pro no cam , Deboichet custon SL2, 38cm or SL4, 38cm if powered up
6.5 severne NCX Pro no cam , Deboichet custon SL4 36cm and often SL5 36cm .
2 For competition
7.8 severne Reflex I , Deboichet SL4 ,40 cm
7.0 TR5 ,Deboichet SL2/4 38cm /36cm
6.2 severne ReflexII .Deboichet SL4/5 ,36cm or Tectomics F1 36cm
Mast position due to my weight (88-89 kg) ,middle position for the 7.0 m2 sails and approx 1cm front and aft based on above sail sizes .
Have adjusted the footstrap position and put them 2cm back ( made my own pattend) ,and the board is a bullet .
In competition with my friend sailing Isonic 117 2011model and sail 8.6 m2 severne turbo the CA SL 62 with a 7.5m2 severne pro NCX no cam was blasting away leaving everybody with a huge HOW .
Wind force was not for the CA favor , just between 15-18 kns.
This is giving some answers to others in this forum .
I really do not think I need a bigger board ,after that I stay to the volumes I already have .
As for fin brands and sizes I am very satisfied with Deboichet SL 4 and 5 for winds to 25-28 kns and with tectonics F1 34 -30 cm up to 35 kns . These are the fins I use to all 3 of my CA Slalom boards which are the SL62 pro,SL58, and SL55 .
Have tried C3's Venom and Sting and Select carbon in 36 -40 sizes but couldn'tget better results .
Try combos and you will get what is best for you
cheers
akisman
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Thursday 05 May 2011 11:49:13 pm
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tim.schaefer
Member
Germany
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Hi Giorgio and Akisman!
I have the Talon with thickness 9,5%. I will try the Talon 35cm and if I do not like it, I will try C3 Sting2 38 and Deb Sl4 40.
Thanks so far.
Tim
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Friday 06 May 2011 1:03:26 am
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tim.schaefer
Member
Germany
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Akisman,
did you just drill new holes in the board or how have you done it? Was it difficult?
Tim
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Friday 06 May 2011 5:53:35 am
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akisman
CA Team
Greece
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Hi Tim
Concerning fins if you are 85-90 kg Deb SL4 40 would be nice ,otherwise try the 38 cm and /or 36cm.
As for the strap position I did the folowing trick .(I didn;t want to drill new holes) .
I had to replace the old CA straps and I got Da Kine straps . These straps are having a stainlees steel plate at the place where the strap screws are located. Each plate is having 3 holes for the screws . CA board gets only one hole at the back place of the strap . I placed the screw in the inner ( not the middle )hole of the strap ,and so the position of the strap was placed 2cm towards the board edge.( not back as mentioned above ,but this can happen also ). I actually changed the strap angle to the board . Did the same for the back straps also .Due to steel plate straps connot move or twist if you tighten them firmly and can resist the foot pressure .By this way the back side of all straps have become more close to the board rails .Its not difficult to do it ,and the feeling of board is superb;you will not regret it . The board feels as faster now .I am planning to do the same on my SL55 . I shall soon have GPS results( planning for this weekend) on same day's runs with the old and the new strap position on the SL 55 . I will inform the forum .
Till then have fun and try combinations that will give you the feeling you are satisfied with .
All the best
Akisman
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Friday 06 May 2011 8:02:25 am
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tim.schaefer
Member
Germany
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Hi Akisman,
good to hear that I do not have to drill holes in the board. 
I have also these plates and will try it out.
My weight is 77kg, so maybe a sl4 38 should do it in medium wind conditions.
Thanks
Tim
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Saturday 07 May 2011 7:55:12 am
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akisman
CA Team
Greece
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Hi Tim
I think that due to your weight the sl62 has to be considered as your big board .
I think you will not be happy in choppy waters after 20-22 kn .
Try fin sizes under 37 cm and max sail size 6.6 -7.0 m2 up to 5 bfds .
rgds
akisman
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Tuesday 10 May 2011 8:10:54 pm
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pettersevenius
CA Team
Sweden
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Fin selection depends on your taste and style, personally I like the C3 fins with my CA slalom boards. For light wind 7.5 on the SL 62 I use the Sting 38, in more choppy high wind 7.5 conditions I prefer the venom 38 that is more forgiving and controllable, and for high wind 6.5 sailing I use the 34 sting.
If you are looking for a loose fast exiting ride I think the Venoms are great, so controllable and easy to sail on the SL62! With the Venoms you might need to go up 2 cm in size. I have used the venom 38 as my "universal fin" on the SL 62, it works ok from 6.5 to 7.5 but for light wind 7.5 you might want to go up to Venom 40.
The SL62 is a great board, have fun!
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Monday 27 June 2011 4:25:10 am
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tim.schaefer
Member
Germany
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Hi Akisman,
what is the difference between a Deb SL2 38cm and a SL4 40cm? Isn't it close? Why do you use sometimes SL2 and SL4? I have never sailed a Deb fin, but I know that the SL4 has less power than the SL2.
Which fin do you like the most on that board, if you had to choose one? SL2 or SL4 and which length?
Hi James,
do you know which Deb fins and length Phil sails?
Cheers
Tim
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Tuesday 28 June 2011 7:31:05 am
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akisman
CA Team
Greece
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Well, the fin size depends on three factors mainly ( for the same board.) . 1- Sail size , 2- rider's weight ,3- wind conditions . That is why I have proposed that you will find your perfect setup after trying some combinations.
As for the Deb fins ,the sl2 requires more foot pressure by the sailor than sl4 . Sl4 though is a faster fin than sl2 ,speeking for the same fin size.
I am using sl2 in sea conditions where together with the wind there is a strong sea current that forces you downwind .In other conditions - without current- I use sl4 which gives you a really smooth and very fast (blasting) ride.The decision on which size is best its all on you . It really took me two -three weeks with combos to understand my proper set up .
For you I would dare to propose sl4 38 for 7,0 m2 sail and sl4 36 for 6.0 -6.3 m2 sail .( for CA sl62 board) .
Hope this will help .
nice sails - AKISMAN
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Monday 04 July 2011 9:55:17 am
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james
CA Team
New Zealand
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Hi Tim,
Phil has SL2 and SL4 38 cm which he uses in the 62, plus C3's and Tectonics the last time I looked in the van, different fins work in different conditions it's just a case of trying and finding out what works best for you and the conditions.
Cheers, James.
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Tuesday 05 July 2011 9:00:03 am
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akisman
CA Team
Greece
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Well I am so glad that Phil is using Deb and Tectonics fins too .
I have rarely used a tectonics on the sl 62 (with sailsize 6.0 - 6.3 m2) ,but its the proper
fin for my sl 55 ( only 32 and 30 cm though).
So the general rule Tim is :
Deb fins when the required size is 36-40 cm -and Tectonics for size 30- 34 cm .
In high winds tectonics are really THE fast fins .
Akisman
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Wednesday 06 July 2011 9:14:22 pm
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tim.schaefer
Member
Germany
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Hi!
I am now in Spain and can not sail the 62 untill beginning of August. Then I try the Talon 37 and 39 again. If not satisfied in low to medium wind conditions, I will order a SL2 38.
For higher wind the Talon will be fine.
Thanks for your help so far.
Tim
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Friday 08 July 2011 1:50:50 am
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.g.e.o.
CA Team
Italy
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Hi Tim,
I doubt at 77 kg you will be satisfied by the 9.5 Talons. Anyhow I would suggest you to resell your thicker Talons and get a few ones in 9.0. Those work by sure.
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Saturday 09 July 2011 7:18:48 pm
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akisman
CA Team
Greece
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I agree with g.e.o. concerning thickness. You have to try a thinner fin which will be more powerfull and controlable by you Tim .Thats the reason I proposed Deb and /or Tectonics .
RGDS
Akisman
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Monday 11 July 2011 3:50:52 am
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tim.schaefer
Member
Germany
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Hi!
I just found somebody who wants to sell SL2 and 4 in 38cm. I will buy these fins and try them. BTW I will buy a Wave V 57 from this person, too!
Cheers
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Tuesday 12 July 2011 7:07:30 pm
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akisman
CA Team
Greece
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Thats very nice Tim. Check the fins tip though to see if they are in good shape.
As for the wave board I have the V 56 ,80 lts and its my main wave board for winds
from 6-8 bfs . James wave boards are super .
RGDS
Akisman
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Sunday 31 July 2011 8:25:44 am
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tim.schaefer
Member
Germany
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Had two nice sessions on the 62. Found my settings now. The 39 and 37 Talon are really nice, I will stick with these fins. Mast foot is 1cm back of center.
The board is a planing monster: early planing, planing through lulls,jibing, average speed and acceleration are the best on the market I think.
I sailed it with 7,9 and 7,1 KA Sail Race. The board carries the 7,9 pretty good, best is the 7,1.
Very well done James!
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Monday 01 August 2011 8:21:45 pm
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tim.schaefer
Member
Germany
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Hi Akisman,
forgot to say that I tried your footstrap position, but I like the original better. I think the original is a perfect mix of comfort, control and speed. It is so easy to go in the straps. Performance-wise I do not miss anything.
For me it was just a problem of mast foot, boom height and harness lines length. Now I have found my settings and I am really happy.
Cheers
Tim
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