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Friday 16 October 2009 2:49:13 pm

mikecoker
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Location: New Zealand

Carbon Art Formula Test Report

Boards: Formula 780 and 820

Testers: Stephen Walsh, Christophe Waerzeggers.

Overall impression & Conclusion :

The underlying concept/idea being radically different from what is currently on the market, both boards feel and ride differently than what is currently out there. They require a different sailing style and thus different fins than the current "norm". They are "real CAs" because of their ease of use: super early planning without requiring intensive pumping; upwind/downwind drive without requiring huge back-foot fin loading. With some minor adaptations (slightly lifting the rocker and/or increasing the V for a cleaner release, esp on the 820, moving the mast track backwards, providing a 5th strap) both boards appear to be competitive around the race course.

Specific comments:

1. Planning:
This is undoubtedly where both boards excel. The full width of the tail provides for a super clean release undisturbed by cut-outs, steps etc. Comparatively both boards probably have the widest *effective* tail out there!

2. Upwind:
Essentially for the same reason (i.e. a wide effective tail) both boards have an excellent upwind angle. Going upwind does not require loading/foiling the fin, but simply "driving" the board upwind using the entire rear planning surface by keeping it flat on the water. With the right fin (see below) and the base all the way back in the track both boards had competitive upwind speed when powered up.

3. Downwind:
Both boards are easy to drive downwind at a deep angle, although they tend to be a bit sticky when not fully lit thus losing somewhat in terms of speed. This is especially true for the 820. Although the nose of the board doesn't dive into the back of the chop, the board's midsection had a slight tendency to stick and thus slow the board down, again more so on the 820. Moving the mast track further back helped to release both boards. This worked particularly well with the 780.

4. Fins :
Generally both boards went best with the Kashy XS 70. Most of the very soft VMG fins provided too much tail lift thereby effectively crushing the boards' front section into the water and slowing them down. In other words, the lift from those fins did not translate into speed. The Kashy generally allowed the boards to ride freely with speed, providing more a large slalom board-like feeling. Under the 820 with 12.0 in marginal conditions the Kashy felt slightly under-finned though. It would probably work well with a similar style fin (rake, stiffness, bend curve) but longer, say 74cm cut to 70.

During the demo and testing event Chris Ting was excellent he spent a lot of time supplying different fins to try. VMG will be making a custom fin this week.

5. Strap positions:
The strap positions on both boards felt perfect, providing for a balanced ride both upwind and downwind. A fifth strap would allow to drive the boards deeper downwind at speed. A "double" fifth strap is probably not necessary as the boards are best driven flat anyway. This might also mean that off the wind you can go to the fifth strap quicker (i.e. in less wind) than you would on the other super wide boards (SB, F2) - but more testing would be required to test this.

6. Sails:
Both boards worked well with 12.0 & 11.0, but in marginal conditions the 820 probably 'prefers' a 12.0 to an 11.0. The 780 seemed to handle 12.0 quite well.


Have questions?
Ask away - Stephen and Christophe can answer any specific questions.

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Friday 16 October 2009 8:49:19 pm

ChrisBEL29
CA Team

Christophe Waerzeggers

Belgium

Cheers Mke for putting this up. Let us know if there are any questions!

ps: my current location is Sydney

Monday 19 October 2009 10:42:06 pm

swalsh
CA Team

Stephen  Walsh

Australia

Here is a pic of Christophe during our testing on Botany Bay (AUS) riding the new CA 82 in very light wind. Christophe had this board planing in as little as 6 knots of wind!

Re: Carbon Art Formula Test Report
Thursday 22 October 2009 4:26:00 pm

ChrisBEL29
CA Team

Christophe Waerzeggers

Belgium

Hi All

Had another afternoon on the FW780 the other day on Botany Bay, Sydney in quite a lot windier conditions than most of my previous outings on the board. Wind readings for Sydney airport were 17/18 knots with gusts to 22/23 knots, small to moderate chop. I was on an 11.0 Mausails TR4xt (thanks Remi from http://thewindsurfingshed.com.au/)

I was using a VMG 74 cut (http://www.vmgblades.com/) which worked really well under the board. It trimmed the board up nicely without any tail walking problems. I could keep the pressure on to motor upwind at speed. Off the wind the board felt equally stable and comfortable to drive downwind. I fifth strap would have been welcome at times going down full power in the choppier parts of the bay, but I was never out of control.

Cheers

c

Thursday 05 November 2009 11:51:09 pm

swalsh
CA Team

Stephen  Walsh

Australia

Currently testing the new formula with different fin variations with pleasing results. Keep tuned for more info and pics very soon!

Thursday 12 November 2009 5:42:42 pm

swalsh
CA Team

Stephen  Walsh

Australia

Here are some picks of Phil McGain testing out a Carbon Art FW780 prototype in Sydney. A production model registered with ISAF is about to be released, so get your orders ready! This is going to be one sweet board!

Phil Mcgain testing FW780 (1 of 4)
Thursday 12 November 2009 5:43:35 pm

swalsh
CA Team

Stephen  Walsh

Australia

Another pic

Phil Mcgain testing FW780 2
Thursday 12 November 2009 5:44:19 pm

swalsh
CA Team

Stephen  Walsh

Australia

1 more...

Phil Mcgain testing FW780 3
Thursday 19 November 2009 8:22:41 pm

rus-12
Member

Russian Federation

Could you please comment, what does it mean "780, 820".

regards,
Alexander

Thursday 19 November 2009 8:45:35 pm

.g.e.o.
CA Team

Giorgio Carpi

Italy

Tail width one foot off, in millimiters.

Thursday 19 November 2009 10:38:00 pm

rus-12
Member

Russian Federation

thank's a lot

another question -
could you please suggest riders weights for those three models.
For example I have just 70 kg, which model should I choose? 785 or 730?

regards,
Alexander

Friday 20 November 2009 1:21:06 am

ChrisBEL29
CA Team

Christophe Waerzeggers

Belgium

Hi Alexander:
It would also depend on the sail size and wind conditions you are most likely to be sailing in. At almost your weight (72kg) I will be racing the 785 (note that the actual 'ofo' width of the 78 is 785 and not 780) using mostly 11.0. I haven't tried the 730 yet but I hear from James that it's also a great and versatile board. Anyway, at your weight you won't need to go up to the 820.
cheers
c

Sunday 22 November 2009 1:04:45 pm

swalsh
CA Team

Stephen  Walsh

Australia

Hi Rus-12, I agree with Christophe. If you plan on runnning a 12.0m (which you probably won't being only 70kg) I would recommend either the 730 or the 780. The 730 will run a sail up to 11m and still has good surface area for early planning for light weight sailors. I have tested the 780 running sails up to 12m and found the board to handle really well for my weight of 86kg. The 780 will more likely be the best all round formula board for most sailors, though the 820 option is also available for those on the heavier side (95kg+).

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